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charleyfarley 12:54 Sun Dec 5
⚽ Burnley v West Ham - Official Match Thread FT 0-0

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Turf Moor
Sun Dec 12th 14:00 GMT

VAR Jonathan Moss

Graham Scott: (5) - 18 0


Pope, Lowton, Mee, Tarkowski, Taylor, Gudmundsson, Westwood, Cork, McNeil, Wood, Rodriguez
Subs: Hennessey, Long, Thomas, Pieters, Brownhill, Lennon, Bardsley, Vydra, Collins


Fabianski, Masuaku, Dawson, Diop, Coufal, Soucek, Rice, Benrahma, Bowen, Antonio, Lanzini
Subs: Areola, Ashby, Kral, Noble, Vlasic, Yarmolenko, Fornals, Baptiste, Alese


Burnley 5/2: Draw 13/5: West Ham 21/20




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Fortunes Hiding 12:46 Tue Dec 14
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Calling you a coward?

But it’s ok to randomly call people a cunt.
Buffoon

fraser 9:24 Tue Dec 14
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Manuel - morning, coward.. Can't say I remember calling you that.. You clearly do, I've no idea where you think I've got it from.

No doubt you've called me as bad when debating on here..

Manuel 4:03 Tue Dec 14
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fraser - Dopey? You not calling me a coward this time then? Don't worry, I ain't forgot about that, and I know where you got it from, fella.

kylay 11:03 Mon Dec 13
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RichyP 11:25 Mon Dec 13

And even if it were, he clearly would have had a chance to play the ball if the defender hadn't hacked the shit out of him. Usually that analysis is only seen on denial of a goal scoring opportunity which isn't about a penalty but a red card.

paulon 10:29 Mon Dec 13
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Lot of praise for Declan on their forum

https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=58797

Like many, went into the match wondering what the hype was all about. He has been poor at t’Turf. Yesterday was a Steven Gerrard type performance. Great defensively and their most threatening player going forward. Best performance by any player I’ve seen live this year.

He was a class act today and stood out a mile it was his box to box engine that impressed me most and he is up their with Fabregas, Hazard, Modric, Gerrard, Van Dijk, De Bruyne and Kante as best opposition players that I have seen on the Turf

Must admit we made a few of the WHU players look mediocre today-Antonio, Bowen and Benrahma, Souchel, Coufal, Lansini. Declan Rice most certainly was not one of them. One of the best players I have seen in a long time that caught my eye. A future England captain

gph 8:53 Mon Dec 13
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Definite penalty. The dialogue should go..
Did Scunthorpe play the ball? No.
Did the Scunthorpe player kick the WH player? Yes.
Foul play.
Result caution and penalty.

With VAR as well it was poor.

They're all the same, these non-West Ham claret and blue teams...

fraser 5:37 Mon Dec 13
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Manuel 3:56 Mon Dec 13..

Blimey you really read what you want to read don't you.

I was replying to someones comment about Haller, in fact exactly the same as you've just done.

Digging out Antonio.. He's been poor the last couple of months, everyone on this board knows it, you included I've seen you Sat it..

Dopey cunt

master 5:26 Mon Dec 13
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Is there any reason why VAR wouldn't be corrupt?

It's the easiest way to manipulate the game and get what they want. Big teams doing well and 'entertainment'.

Why don't we hear the conversations?
Why don't we see the video replays any longer?
Why don't they release last season's records to gives fans an understanding of the rational behind decisions?
Why don't they tell us who (else) exactly is in the video box?
Why don't they clarify who is allowed in that box?
Why is it just one person and not a panel of independent people?

Because it's corrupt.

Surfinglizard 5:12 Mon Dec 13
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Villa? Are you a referee by any chance?

Razzle 1:05 Mon Dec 13
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Definite penalty. The dialogue should go..
Did Villa play the ball? No.
Did the Villa player kick the WH player? Yes.
Foul play.
Result caution and penalty.

With VAR as well it was poor.

Northern Sold 12:35 Mon Dec 13
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Only watched the highlights… 100 per center penalty… all day long.

Hermit Road 12:26 Mon Dec 13
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"To get these decisions you have to have a boss who doesn’t mind being fined and really has a go at these refs after the game.

What happens is psychologically the refs don’t want to be constantly scrutinised in their games and start giving your team decisions they couldn’t be bothered to before."

Yep. And a captain who gives it to him on the pitch too.

Refs are bloody useless though and are clearly susceptible to pressure. VAR should be abolished too if they're not going to use it right.

Pub Bigot 12:26 Mon Dec 13
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Jude Bellingham recent comments comes to mind when re-watching our penalty claim.

Stonewall.

Athletico Easthamico 12:20 Mon Dec 13
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If it was Salah it's a penalty.
Simple as that.

Percy Dalton 11:41 Mon Dec 13
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Had a great weekend did Moss he was the ref that gave that ridiculous penalty for Man City and he was the VAR bloke in the Dawson incident.
Shouldn't be anywhere near a football match.
Time to introduce foreign refs as this lot are Sunday league standard

w4hammer 11:40 Mon Dec 13
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The 'never looked like getting the ball' thing is the biggest load of trollope, how about if a corner is slung in and someone is thrown to the ground? It should be a pen, even if the ball wasn't going near them. Dawson was cleaned out, and it was as stonewall a pen as you'll ever get, and it's a mockery considering some of the pens given now with VAR.

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this. The fact the commentator uses that as an excuse/law is risible - when clearly if a player takes another player out " in pursuit of the ball" its a foul...the only time that rule " might" apply is if an attacker is running the ball out - the second chelsea pen is an example of even in that case, a penalty gets given....just awful reffing again and even worse VARing

RichyP 11:25 Mon Dec 13
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Just googled FA law 12 which is the law applied for awarding direct free kicks/penalties and there is nothing in the law about the actions of the player who has been fouled. So whether Dawson was in control of the ball or had a chance of keeping the ball in is completely irrelevant.

The Burnley player attempted to play the ball by swinging his leg and got nowhere near the ball but caught the player. It was a careless challenge and a penalty should have been awarded. It’s not open to Interpretation.

wansteadman 11:13 Mon Dec 13
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Keep saying it but until refs are forced to talk afterwards it won’t change. If he had to explain why he didn’t give it he’d probably give more

Eerie Descent 10:59 Mon Dec 13
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Big club, small club, that is without question a penalty, and I can't for the life of me work out why it wasn't given. He cleaned Dawson out, Dawson was laughing because it was that blatant.

threesixty 10:57 Mon Dec 13
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To get these decisions you have to have a boss who doesn’t mind being fined and really has a go at these refs after the game.

What happens is psychologically the refs don’t want to be constantly scrutinised in their games and start giving your team decisions they couldn’t be bothered to before.

Fergie, klopp, mourinho, conte etc… they all do it and know in the long run they’ll get those dodgy points.

Moyes is an honest guy though so I just don’t see us going in that direction.

Percy Dalton 10:47 Mon Dec 13
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No question def penalty or I should rephrase that def penalty if you play for the privileged few.
Stinks to high heaven just makes you hate the elite mob even more.
Wish they had just let all that mob fuck off to their super league and take the bent English refs and VAR with them.

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